{"id":47919,"date":"2025-08-16T16:12:00","date_gmt":"2025-08-16T14:12:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/marineforum.online\/?p=47919"},"modified":"2025-09-29T20:46:42","modified_gmt":"2025-09-29T18:46:42","slug":"autonomy-and-ki-at-sea-bremen-rehearses-the-trialogue","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/marineforum.online\/en\/autonomie-und-ki-zur-see-bremen-probt-den-trialog\/","title":{"rendered":"\"Autonomy and AI at sea\" - Bremen rehearses the trialogue"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Shortly after nine, the doors close. Discretion, no sound bites for the record - Chatham House Rules. What remains is the impression of a scene that wants to pick up speed: the second Bremen dialogue focuses on a topic that is likely to shape tactics, logistics and procurement in equal measure in the future: <em>\"AI and autonomy - the future of maritime security\"<\/em>. The format is embedded in the \"Maritime Security and Navy 2035+\" series organised by the German Maritime Institute (DMI). Around 90 invited experts from the German Armed Forces, industry, research and government departments will be present.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_47938\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-47938\" style=\"width: 260px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-47938\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/2025-BreDia-3-e1755352534901-260x300.jpg\" alt=\"Rheinmetall has brought a &quot;pair&quot; of robots...\" width=\"260\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/2025-BreDia-3-e1755352534901-260x300.jpg 260w, \/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/2025-BreDia-3-e1755352534901-887x1024.jpg 887w, \/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/2025-BreDia-3-e1755352534901-768x887.jpg 768w, \/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/2025-BreDia-3-e1755352534901.jpg 1150w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 260px) 100vw, 260px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-47938\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Rheinmetall has brought a \"pair\" of robots...<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The fact that the dialogue is continuing is also due to a key organiser: Rheinmetall is taking the initiative for 2026 - a clear signal that impulses are turning into work streams. The 2025 edition was hosted by TKMS\/Atlas Elektronik.<\/p>\n<h4><strong>Six workshops, six perspectives<\/strong><\/h4>\n<p>Six workshop titles are displayed on a screen in the foyer - almost like chapter headings of a common story, six rooms open up different approaches to the same problem. <strong>Sensor and effector networks for unmanned systems<\/strong> in room A - how do we couple enlightenment, deception and effect in such a way that the composite achieves more than the sum of its parts, right up to the swarm? <strong>Future application scenarios<\/strong> - From mine defence and submarine hunting to object protection and maritime domain awareness: where do USV\/UUV and drones bring the greatest added value, and how do they fit into C2\/comms and manned\/unmanned teaming? <strong>Technological disruptions<\/strong> - AI-supported evaluation, digital twins, automation; where could new effectors (including directed energy) shift the rules of the game? <strong>Lessons learnt from current conflicts<\/strong> - What is resilient (drones, mines, cyber, EW), what is hype, and what can actually be transferred? <strong>AI in operational use<\/strong> - automatic pattern\/target recognition, data fusion close to the situation picture, decision assistance; what are the limits (data quality, explainability, robustness)? In room F <strong>Guidance<\/strong> rethought: when UxS and AI are on board, leadership changes - role change of officers to system managers, training, human-in\/on-the-loop, adaptation of ROE.<\/p>\n<p>Above all, the key question: How are unmanned systems and AI changing tactical and operational command at sea - and what does this mean for the fleet on the way to the Navy 2035+?<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_47941\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-47941\" style=\"width: 318px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/2025-BreDia-7.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-47941\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/2025-BreDia-7-300x169.jpg\" alt=\"Walking, not sitting: Bremen dialogue 2025\" width=\"318\" height=\"179\" srcset=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/2025-BreDia-7-300x169.jpg 300w, \/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/2025-BreDia-7-1024x575.jpg 1024w, \/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/2025-BreDia-7-768x432.jpg 768w, \/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/2025-BreDia-7-1536x863.jpg 1536w, \/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/2025-BreDia-7.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 318px) 100vw, 318px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-47941\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Walking, not sitting: Bremen dialogue 2025<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<h4><strong>Bremen Industry Quartet<\/strong><\/h4>\n<p>The event is characterised by a balanced industry presence. Rheinmetall Electronics, TKMS\/Atlas Elektronik, NVL and Abeking &amp; Rasmussen will be appearing without product folklore - with complementary role models: Guidance\/simulation and effects technology, unmanned underwater and surface platforms, MCM approaches and platform-side preparation for drone and mission modules. The tenor: interfaces, interoperability, IT security, retrofitting capability - so that the fleet does not fail later due to \"system edges\". Rheinmetall is providing organisational support for the format and is taking it to the next level by taking over the initiative in 2026; TKMS\/Atlas will be responsible for the host role in 2025.<\/p>\n<h4><strong>Situation: Opportunities without euphoria<\/strong><\/h4>\n<p>The security situation provides the focal point. Hybrid threats, vulnerable maritime infrastructure, persistent mine and drone threats - much of this has become more visible. AI-supported sensor technology and networked unmanned systems can increase range, reaction speed and resilience; at the same time, dependencies are growing: Communication, EW resilience, cyber hygiene and data access are becoming hard operational parameters. The dialogue clearly highlights this ambivalence - and thus remains credible.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Leadership in transition<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Over the course of the day, a picture of the future bridge emerges: management will become more data-rich, faster - and more selective. AI sorts, prioritises and warns; decisions remain with humans. In practical terms, this means new training modules, more simulator\/digital twin components, crew design with system expertise for UxS. Tactical procedures will become more modular, C2 layouts more flexible - with redundancies in the event of disrupted networks. \"Kill chains\" give way to \"sensor-to-decision\" networks in which responsibilities are clearly localised.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_47945\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-47945\" style=\"width: 175px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/2025-BreDia-9-2.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-47945\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/2025-BreDia-9-2-156x300.jpg\" alt=\"Flotilla Admiral Dirk G\u00e4rtner at the Bremen Dialogue 2025\" width=\"175\" height=\"337\" srcset=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/2025-BreDia-9-2-156x300.jpg 156w, \/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/2025-BreDia-9-2-533x1024.jpg 533w, \/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/2025-BreDia-9-2-768x1476.jpg 768w, \/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/2025-BreDia-9-2-799x1536.jpg 799w, \/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/2025-BreDia-9-2.jpg 999w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 175px) 100vw, 175px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-47945\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Flotilla Admiral Dirk G\u00e4rtner at the Bremen Dialogue 2025<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<h4><strong>Why we need these formats<\/strong><\/h4>\n<p>Formats such as the Bremen Dialogue create the necessary <em>Trialogue<\/em> between industry, the navy and defence managers. They synchronise requirements, technical options and procurability at an early stage, shorten iteration loops and build trust between the players who will later share responsibility. This is no substitute for reforming procurement, approval and IT security processes, but it does pave the way for fleet-related piloting, rapid prototyping and modular introduction stages - with clear test corridors, data rooms and prioritisation. This is precisely why the Bremen Dialogue was designed as a working format.<\/p>\n<h4><strong>Marine reference<\/strong><\/h4>\n<p>Drone capability, digital networking and resilience against hybrid attacks are key elements of our navy's vision. Bremen does not start with abstract \"digitalisation\", but with concrete implementation paths - from the sensor-effector network to command and training issues. The fact that the DMI set the tone, that around 90 experts attended and that the event will continue in 2026 are reliable indicators of the prevailing momentum - and that it will not stop here.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Conclusion<\/strong>The Bremen Dialogue is a working and trust-based space for the trialogue between industry, the navy and those responsible for armaments. With Rheinmetall as the main organiser and the commitment for 2026, the format has a tailwind. If the lines outlined now lead to trials at sea, incremental introduction and robust standards, this trialogue can make a measurable contribution to accelerating processes - without sacrificing the necessary care.<\/p>\n<p>Photos: hsc<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Kurz nach neun, die T\u00fcren schlie\u00dfen sich. Diskretion, keine O-T\u00f6ne f\u00fcrs Protokoll \u2013 Chatham House Rules. Was bleibt, ist der Eindruck einer Szene, die an Tempo gewinnen will: Beim zweiten Bremer Dialog r\u00fcckt ein Thema ins Zentrum, das k\u00fcnftig Taktik, Logistik und Beschaffung gleicherma\u00dfen pr\u00e4gen d\u00fcrfte: \u201eKI und Autonomie \u2013 Zukunft der maritimen Sicherheit\u201c. 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