{"id":51528,"date":"2025-11-24T14:00:09","date_gmt":"2025-11-24T13:00:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/marineforum.online\/?p=51528"},"modified":"2025-11-23T16:51:50","modified_gmt":"2025-11-23T15:51:50","slug":"the-die-is-cast","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/marineforum.online\/en\/die-wuerfel-fallen\/","title":{"rendered":"The die is cast"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Lange Jahre haben wir \u00fcber die Strukturen und n\u00f6tigen Ver\u00e4nderungsprozesse in unseren R\u00fcstungsindustrien diskutiert, vor wie nach der \u201eZeitenwende\u201c. Dies betraf auch und gerade den maritimen Bereich: Wie sollte es hier weitergehen? Mehr oder weniger Staat? Nationale Konsolidierung oder europ\u00e4ische Integration? Mehr Spezialisierung und Nische oder ein Festhalten am Anspruch auf die volle Breite der Seer\u00fcstung in nationaler Hand? 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